Freshly cut lawns are not only visually appealing, as they feel and smell great too. Having a really hard time deciding between the two if I make the jump from a 42 to the 50/52. Im looking to spend around $3k or less for the mower; what would you suggest? Bush Hog has had zero-turns for many years and the current models are heavy-duty well-built units. My John Deere riding mower had issues with grass building up under the deck, but its 2004 model. It has the same heavy-duty features as the Ariens IKON XL but the deck is designed more for weekly mowing. Its 25% more fuel-efficient and responds to heavy grass a lot faster than the carbd engines. Its the Capital one Savor Card, google it if interested in the promo. It cuts very well and its biggest feature for you is you can get an optional powered bagger. I have looked at both in person and there is no comparison the ultra heavy duty Apex (same as the Gravely ZT HD that sells for about $5200) makes the ZT2 look very basic and average. Personally, Id go with a little heavier machine. I would never pay more for a Kawasaki FR than I would for a Kohler 7000. Im neutral about the Liberty Z. Robotic Mowers. Hi James, I made a comparison list of the two here: Product comparison. Q: Is Kohler EFI engine a reliable engine? I am considering an upgrade to a zero turn and would appreciate your input. You will like the cut of the John Deere a lot. If you are fine with buying from the box store and then finding a dealer if you have issues to save $200 then go that way. I compared Toro, Bad Boy, John Deere, Husqvarna and Cub Cadet and based on . However, the ride didnt seem much better than my Husqvarna tractor (my neighbor doesnt have the upgraded seat), and the price is out of my range. In fact, I have that deck on my Exmark and I use that deck as my reference cut for most of my videos when Im demoing other mowers. Any thoughts or comments? The cutting height is fully adjustable. Its not a manicured lawn but its not bad either. Just tell your friends about Todaysmower.com and MovingSnow.com. I have 1 acre lot in which my home is 2200 sq ft. My yard is mostly flat in which it has been graded like a bowl. Fab 24.5 HP V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero Turn Riding Mower or I purposely did not expand on my Toro dealer experience. I am looking at a 60 Toro Z Master 2000 with 708cc 24.5 HP V Twin Toro Commercial Engine. I prefer the Walker. Without concern about the leaf vac, I was looking at the Cub Cadet ZT2 54-inch or the Toro TimeCutter 54-inch (75754) I judge those to be about the equivalent. Trimming with the Model R is unbeatable. Another option is one of the zero turns with a steering wheel, either a Toro or Cub Cadet. You can get all three with the Kawasaki engine. So at least Ive narrowed it down to 4 potential brands. Ventracs can handle 30-degree slopes ($25,000) The Toro has a blade tip speed nearing 19,000 fpm which is blazing fast and should leave an excellent cut. None of those manufacturers will extend your ZTRs warranty in case your mower breaks using their leaf vac. When it died, I decided I didnt want to put more money into having an old mower refurbished. Will those help with preventing the deck from getting clogged? Both brands have a cutting height difference of 1 4.5 inches, only that the Cub Cadet functions on a pin system to adjust cutting heights, and the Toro TimeCutter relies on a lever which I honestly prefer over picking and dropping a pin especially when you have to constantly take your eyes off the track. I am looking to purchase a 60 ztr to mow 3 acres of mostly flat yard. Both mowers make use of 42-inch steel cutting decks, but the Toro has two front rollers while the Cub has two front and two rear rollers. Now it just keeps throwing the belt off. I was using my TORO 51592 blower when it started to catch on fire and possibly electrocute me. Im leaning towards the Toro and more of the 50 inch model with the Kawasaki engine. Thanks in advance! Mind you he has like 10 acres he cuts.. so he has a commercial grade Scag with EFI and all that good stuff. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. I also use the mulcher in the fall for leaves. Great machine! One last question, my dealer also carries the ExMark line, in addition to the Toro and Ariens I mentioned above. Its a very heavy-duty mower. Trying to decide between a 54 Magnum MZ ztr Bad Boy and a Ariens Ikon X 52, any words of advise? John Deere Z530M. Warren, RI, Hi Mike, I knew you would like it! Its the same mower as the IKON XD with the serviceable ZT2800 trannys. Might be able to get an entry level pro machine for the regular price of a consumer unit though. Are they here to stay? I have a huge (20 acre) yard and do not own a tractor, and dont know if I want one. If you want to learn more please go over to this post: Number 1, 2, 3, and 5 are good choices for your yard and what you want to do. My first choice for you is a Country Clipper Boulevard zero-turn. They both have the best cut. We have been in touch over the past few years. Im also showing that Lowes is not going to carry most models in stock. The design of both these machines is almost similar. You will also find that both machines use a dual hydrostatic drive system for ultimate maneuverability and ease of ride. Walker brand ZTRs can typically handle steeper slopes because of their low center of gravity. With the belt loose wiggle the pulley on the electric clutch up and down (on the bottom of the engine) there should be no play. Better transmissions and better controls. Do not which one cannot be rebuilt or can for that matter. Hi Mark, Im not aware that Tractor Supply has a robotic mower. (I did cut the lawn once with a 21 walk behind mower took me 2 hours and 45 minutes, and walking the hillside sideways with that mower was really hard on my knees and hips. By the way it was a trade-in at a local dealer where it was originally purchased and serviced. Whereas some mowers utilize reinforced plastic cutting decks, the Toro and Cadet alike employ all-metal cutting decks. I would check the belt you are using as a replacement. 3400 pumps, 23 tires, 7 gauge deck, 10mph, B&S Vanguard for $4200? Thanks! The orange AUTOMOWER Model 535 AWD 967 85 34-66 is their commercial version. I want to go the mulching route so that I can avoid so many grass clippings. Looking for my first zero turn. Hey guys. I think I have a truly fun exercise for you with a varied list of contenders. Fab 24.5 HP V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero Turn Riding Mower, Toro TimeCutter MX6050 60 in. (It also has to do with the weight of the ZTR, the weight of the average operator, and how much downward weight the transmissions axles can handle). Expect it to last at a minimum twice as long as a Kaw FR. It even has a heavy deck and a very good motor. Seems like Im hung up on Toro because of the Ex-mark connection. The 48 48SC-BS24 is on sale for $4207 at sleequipment.com which seems to make it the best value of the 4 Bradley Stand on options. We can get the veterans discount at Lowes and Home Depot. John Deere. 1. If you have ditches or slopes to mow never mow one that has a drop-off or pond at the bottom. I also have balance challenges and some minor fine motor control issues (mild multiple sclerosis). 22.5 hp Toro Commercial V-Twin 708cc w/Self-Cleaning Air Filter Housing, 3-Year, Unlimited Hour Residential Limited Warranty, Brushless DC 60V Battery L324 (6.0ah, 324 wh), 54 IronForged Fabricated 10 ga. High Strength with Bull Nose, 13 x 6.5 6 Front, 22 x 11 10 Rear, 3-year Unlimited Hours (Includes Powertrain). Hi Jeff, The Ariens IKON XD and the Gravely ZT X are the same mower. (Im assuming your lawn is rough). That said. Then if you still need help deciding which mower to buy feel free to come back and ask more questions here. That basically means about a dozen+ trips around the horn in the summer months. I did mean to say the Ariens XD, whats your take on the Ariens Apex in comparison? Paul Sikkema has been writing about snow blowers, riding mowers, and other lawn and garden equipment for over 10 years. 42 inches. Ive pretty much narrowed my choice down to the JD Z355R (maybe the Z375R) or the Toro MX5075 (a bit under 2 acres, somewhat bumpy, with a few hills and some trees and obstacles to dodge). Hi JD, You will be a lot happier with the cut of the Toro than the Simplicity. It will give you a cut you can be proud of. This in comparison with the ZT1s EZT-2200. Hi Paul, Thanks so much for the reply. Spray Foam Equipment and Chemicals. Keep the ZTR off slopes more than 15 degree and change the air filter every 50 hours or less and it will give you a long life. I really, really like the Bradley Standers. I like both of them a lot. The Toro is an efficient, easy-to-operate mower that's fitted with most of the components the Cub utilizes. Thanks again for the information! Possible candidates would be a Toro TimeCutter HD or Titan, a Cub Cadet ZT2, or possibly a John Deere or some sort. Toro is aimed more towards residential and government use. Im also very impressed with the Worx LANDROID L 20V (4.0AH) CORDLESS ROBOTIC LAWN MOWER W/ GPS. Ive thought about asking for the mulch kit to be thrown in for free, but thats only a $110.00 value at retail price. Thats good to know. Inasmuch as I know that Im going to buy a 42 steering wheel zero turn; my question is do you have any idea why the Toro SW4200 and the Exmark Front steering machines are no longer being made? The Deere probably looks a little better to me too, but my mower doesnt need to be pretty, as long as its not ugly and it mows well and has adequate service support if needed. I'm looking at the cub cadet ultima zt2 60 and the Toro timecutter 60. Hi Paul, have you looked at the new Scag residential zero turn yet? The Toro is harder to work on. 3. (These seem to appear mostly on commercial units). The Cub Cadet Ultima ZT1 42 is more powerful and durable than the Toro TimeCutter ZS 4200S, but this additional strength makes the Cub more expensive than the Toro. I guess I am just asking if you have any knowledge of this mower that you can share. Other fuels stabilizers to check out: Fuel Stabilizers. The Kohler EFI and Exmark RED technology give you the power you need when you need it and will also reduce fuel consumption by 20% over other engines. The TimeCutter machines are distinct for having a small compartment right under the seat in front of you to store little gems you might have found during your adventure on the lawn. I suggest that you dont mulch until your lawn growth has settled down. I have been trying to decide on a new mower. Although stepping or climbing on your cutting deck might seem natural, in the long term it will shorten the lifespan of the deck leading to even bigger problems. Even the engines are the same. Toro is the only one using the 2100 and they have been using them for years. If the basic version of either mower model isnt enough for you, take comfort in knowing that a range of enhancing accessories can be purchased. The 52 and larger sizes cut as well as any other brand. 2. Thank you for your diligence. Based on your article, I am considering the Toro MX5075 MyRide and the Arins IKON XL 52. Hi John, Sorry, I too busy with movingsnow.com and helping my daughter move into their new house. Arent the Toro engines made in China? The Model R is very easy to work on. Thank you for your input! 2. Best For Rough Lawns Toro 50 in. The deck sticks out farther to the left on this one and with the larger 20-inch rear tires its great for trimming. Worldlawn 52 diamondback You have to move up to an Edge to get that option. Well scratch my last replythe more I talk to my neighbors with riding mowers the more I hear that they wished they wouldve gone with a bigger deck even for our small 1/3 to 1/2 acre yardsIll hear that around 50 is what people think is enough/wish they wouldve gotten. By the way, the Kawasaki in the MZ is a residential grade engine. Of those 400 there are actually quite a few good zero-turn mowers on the market right now. Hi Ryan, I have no preference between the Kawasaki FR or the Kohler 7000. (and may be included). Ive never been a Cub Cadet fan, however, their new Ultimata series seems pretty legit after research. I am enjoying your site. I recommend the Cub Cadet Z-FORCE S 48 as your cheapest option. If you dive into the specs, there are a few small differences but none of which will make a difference in your cut. So if you are nervous about the Briggs Intek in the John Deere lets focus on two Toro mowers. 5. Hi Jeff, There are NO ZTrs under $4000 that will handle that steep of slope. I prefer to by from a dealer for possible future support. This product is a high-performance gas-operated zero-turn mower that will suit the needs of both homeowners and professionals. Yes, there are many good ZTRs when you get up in the 6K price range. Have used it less than 6 times since. Please wish me and my wallet luck! 2022 LawnMowerForum.com. 1. I own a JD LX280, which has been a great mower, but I have been looking at a ZTR for a couple years as an addition to the JD. (about $2699) This is a great, inexpensive mower and I know it will last years: Check it out here. It will do just fine and last you a long time. Baggers for the MX and HD are very expensive. Both are a lot more agile so you can go around obstacles faster. Lay on the ground on the non-discharge side of the mower. They will also mow that taller pasture with the mulch plate installed if you lift the deck up as high as it can go. I noticed right away the Deere appears to have a lighter frame, which I liked, so it weighs less. The deck is tough but mows best on normal lawn. Your review the other day was spot on. ZTRs are NOT designed to pull things. A good dealer will help you find the best mower for you and have the parts and service to help you get years out of your ZTR. My second choice is either the Toro or Cub Cadet 50 inch. Thanks Paul. I always leave my decks at the mowing height. Hi Joe, I want to start off and say Im not picking on you this comment has to do with the industry as a whole. I dont know how steep of slopes it covers. The owner is the type that likes to jump into a market, disrupt it, and move on to something else if he cant make a fortune. There are Exmark, Hustler, John Deere and Toro dealers near me. Hi Adam, The Apex is comparable to the Cub Cadet Z-Force in price and features. That mower should be in the $2700 range and the fact you have to spend an EXTRA $160 for a hitch is ridiculous. Can the ZT2 transmission handle that? The difference between 10 ga (9/64 inch) and 11 ga (1/8 inch)is less than the thickness of a sheet of paper. So let me go quickly through some of the options youve mentioned. I think theres always 100.00 off to new card members for their first purchase. I use 2 tablespoons per gallon of fuel. The Ultima is getting all the advertising this year but the Troy-Bilt is basically the same mower for a little less money. I also am looking at the 46 inch cub cadet. It had been great mower but I am frustrated. 600 hours later the Honda v-twin 20hp had a $700 hickup and then 6 months later one of the Hydrogears self destructed and apparently Hydrogear no longer makes a replacement so off to the scrap yard. BTW, I can get the Z335E for $2200 and the Z375R for $2650 by using a 10% off big box coupon and a $500 credit card bonus that I have available. (Because of the way the Walker steers it does not need the heavy-duty transmissions) Its only $300 more than the MX5075 but you get a whole lot more mower. I like the flip up footplate, the Kohler, and the rear engine guard on the Cub Cadet a lot. We also have a gorilla yard cart and would like some thing with a hitch pin to pull around firewood or brush etc. About half the lot is sloped from 11 13.7 degrees (measured with angle finder phone app calibrated with a level). First of all, great article. I really have to say if you dont buy from The Home Depot go to a dealer you trust in your area. The 52 Vanguard is $4800 at SLE, but it only gives you 4 more deck.. Almost everything like changing belts and blades, needs to be done on a lift. The quality control for many of those power sports engines is all over the map or non-existent. Lawn/Garden Tractor. I prefer the joystick steering but they do have the lap-bar option if you want. That said. Hi Deb, A year ago Bobcat the skid loader company purchased Bob-Cat mowers from Schuler Industries. Heavy-Duty Fabricated Decks Built with many commercial components so the mower will take a beating Good for acreages, estates, farm lawns, farm ditches, and mowing pastures monthly. Find Zero Turn Lawn Mowers Outdoor Power from CUB CADET, FERRIS, and JOHN DEERE, and more, for sale in MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN They offer free set up and home delivery. Who knows? Putting all 5 mowers (Cub Cadet ProZ, Gravely Prostance Stand On, Walker T25i, Walker B23i and the Hustler X-One) to the test, we will see who. I suggest getting the Cyclone with the dual-wheel casters and the electric start engine. Its a nicety, not a necessity. I am looking between the Ariens Ikon X 52 and the Toro MX5000. a lot better over the years. Hi Rob, All of the current name-brand zero-turns are a lot easier to drive than the models made 20 years ago. Discussed this with the dealer. In the 42 range, Toro is a clear winner. Hustler fixed all the issues with the Raptor series with the new XD. . They are called the ZT XL and ZT HD. 1.5 plus acre yard, mostly flat but bumpy enough to hammer 3 lawn tractors to death in 20 years. This will be my first zero turn. So, Jonsered, Poulan Pro, and Husqvarna tractors are basically all the same they are just painted different colors. Thanks again for your help! They dont have enough traction and the center of gravity is too high. Spent the last couple months searching for a ZTR. The best mower in that price range for ride, cut quality, cutting speed and long life components including the drive belts is the Exmark Lazer Z X-Series. I enjoy mowing regularly (so Im looking forward to the fun of a ZTR). The seat is thick, padded and has springs to help the ride. And has helped me narrow down my choices. Id have them around my place but my wife says we have enough pets. Price/performance/and working your hills this is the best choice. Its the best choice in your price range. I have a 4 acre property. The Smart speed is a lever that lets you reduce the maximum forward speed so you are not tempted to push the transmissions too hard when towing and it allows you to go slow when trimming so you dont bang into stuff as much. As simple as this may seem, you could get used to it quicker than you might suspect. They are not designed to cleanly cut tall overgrowth. Ive taken over an old horse pasture. Toro researched and went with Loncin primarily because five years ago the quality control and warranty repairs for some of the other engine brands you recognize was becoming problematic. When Kawasaki first introduced their engines in the mid-90s you could buy one $300 cheaper than the competitors. A 22 HP/725cc Kohler 7000 series V-twin OHV engine delivers high-performance power and exceptionally smooth, quiet operation. You will find it on entry level commercial mowers where the price is the most important feature. But it only has lightweight EZT transmissions so using it commercially I would not expect it to last more than 3-5 years. Hi Paul, really enjoyed reading the article and comments I feel so much more informed now. You may not be able to see it with the seat attached to the mounting plate. And it really helps to have an expert such as yourself to bounce thoughts off of. That said, I dont recommend it for rough bumpy lawns and especially not areas like your 1 1/2 acres that you dont mow every week. In my opinion, this is the lowest price point you should go for what you want to mow. You have to go up to the Toro Timecutter HD, Cub Cadet ZT2, and Ariens IKON XL to get the larger 2800 trans. This steering wheel model is heavy enough to go up the hill and the front steering wheels will help to keep it on the slope. At the time I spent about $2k more because I was told it was a premium mower. MTD went through and fixed all those small irritating issues last year and the 2020 Cub Cadet is a better choice today: 42 in. powerful 35hp v-twin kawasaki engine !!! 3. Now I own a house and boy there so much information about lawn mowers. In the third video, I listed they do show how well it does on slopes. The Gravely ZT XL and the Ariens Ikon XD are essentially the same mower the Gravely just has the heavier duty transmission and a few other small features. Great point about the extra torque for hills. Going green The Best Electric Riding Mowers, Lawn Tractors and ZTRs. Now, we are in a new home and are beginning to look for a mower to better meet our needs.

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